tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4565845984512808077.post5590919293184704443..comments2024-03-19T21:41:42.835+01:00Comments on Poemas del río Wang: Come with us to Azerbaijan!Studiolumhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06377777909296284368noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4565845984512808077.post-14054691629546639952015-07-10T22:40:08.530+02:002015-07-10T22:40:08.530+02:00Another interesting point to be added after Quba i...Another interesting point to be added after Quba is the Mausoleum of Shah İsmail's grandfather, who was killed in a battle with Shirvanshahs in 1450s https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mausoleum_of_Sheikh_JuneydArazhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14791220527752500079noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4565845984512808077.post-15590105874026060672015-07-06T00:32:18.036+02:002015-07-06T00:32:18.036+02:00Ah, MOCKBA, mocking people, spreading hatred, huh?...Ah, <b>MOCKBA</b>, mocking people, spreading hatred, huh? Your remark is not relevant, besides insisting that Armenians and only them lived somewhere since the times immemorial is as ridiculous, yet felonious if this is used as a basis for destroying others. <br /><br />The fact that this village, which preserved its name and diverse community for centuries since before and through the Turkic Safavid rule of Iran, bound with a common culture and language is more relevant. In 1991, the new rulers probably learned a lesson from their recent pig-like masters that invaded from the mountains to destroy the thousand years old city of Ganja in 1804, and rename it to Yelizavetpol and again after a century to Kirovabad.Arazhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14791220527752500079noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4565845984512808077.post-8567684380736698772015-07-05T18:40:57.941+02:002015-07-05T18:40:57.941+02:00Corrected - oh, I see Qobustan on the itinerary no...Corrected - oh, I see Qobustan on the itinerary nowMOCKBAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05150628026789690963noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4565845984512808077.post-14897292669405566592015-07-05T18:39:04.074+02:002015-07-05T18:39:04.074+02:00Fascinating. I remember that we visited the fire-w...Fascinating. I remember that we visited the fire-worshipers temple on the Peninsula, and the famous "boat people" petroglyphs in Gobustan. I also remember some rather peculiar views on the history of Armenians in the local outlets - an epic legend insisted that the Azeris lived there since the times immemorial, but then all of a sudden nomad Armenians invaded from the moutains, riding their pig-like horses.MOCKBAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05150628026789690963noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4565845984512808077.post-1029347277678712052015-07-05T16:18:42.973+02:002015-07-05T16:18:42.973+02:00Change of name was almost certainly because "...Change of name was almost certainly because "Vartashen" sounds Armenian, same why Udins with Armenian surnames were never conscripted to army during the recent war with Armenia (by the way, same is not true about Jews, there is even a <a href="https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%90%D0%B3%D0%B0%D1%80%D1%83%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%B2,_%D0%90%D0%BB%D1%8C%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%80%D1%82_%D0%90%D0%B3%D0%B0%D1%80%D1%83%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B8%D1%87" rel="nofollow">national war hero</a>). Generally I think mentioning of "expulsion of Armenians" was not relevant, and it seems that you agreed with that. Another problem with the sentence was that one would immediately interpret it as Vartashen was a predominantly Armenian settlement, while it was not, there were Udins, Jews and Tatar i.e. Azerbaijani majority at least in 1890s (when it was just a village, let alone in 1980s), and the language spoken in common gatherings was Tatar.Arazhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14791220527752500079noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4565845984512808077.post-91497915394395917112015-07-05T15:33:26.852+02:002015-07-05T15:33:26.852+02:00Sorry, Araz, the date of 1992 was the fault of my ...Sorry, Araz, the date of 1992 was the fault of my memory, so now I take it out. However, the connection between the expulsion and the change of the name is suggested not by me, but by <a href="https://books.google.com/books?id=rm59_Rb3SCkC&pg=PA67&lpg=PA67&dq=vartashen+oguz+mountain+jews&source=bl&ots=2-rMibVo4M&sig=MHAi6D56OP1CFEqNMbBMq6GJhKg&hl=es&sa=X&ei=YgiZVZCpFsidsgGf9L_gAQ&ved=0CB4Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=vartashen%20oguz%20mountain%20jews&f=false" rel="nofollow">the available literature.</a>Studiolumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06377777909296284368noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4565845984512808077.post-21848795961681948422015-07-05T10:56:13.654+02:002015-07-05T10:56:13.654+02:00Excellent news, Studiolum! One correction though: ...Excellent news, <b>Studiolum</b>! One correction though: "Our accommodation will be in Oğuz – until the expulsion of the Armenians in 1992, Vartashen." is misleading as the change of name happened in February 1991, so linking it to expulsion of Armenians makes wrong suggestions.Arazhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14791220527752500079noreply@blogger.com